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wait

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he's not he's not he's not he's not

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can you see me in here oh it is brick

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oh my gosh

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seriously i'm like i was like that's not

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rick i was like

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25 that's about 40 years younger

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wow my goodness how have you been

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good we've been great we've been doing

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lots of fun

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stuff um doing lots of interviews you

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know

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skinny bob because of you is like

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all the podcasters are about it and

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they're trying to figure it out

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and uh yeah man we've just been

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podcasting and

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getting through this corona crazy corona

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stuff how are you doing with all this

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good yeah we're uh we're just doing

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following the krona

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protocols and um and we're

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staying home we're still trying i'm

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still traveling i'm still doing

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interviews and

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and uh i just came back from colorado

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last week uh and i did one for gi

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at gaia and gaia

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yeah and uh sid sid goldberg

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and um i was back in new york upstate

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new york we were filming a movie

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um that was on set for

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uh a week and a half and then they shut

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us down because new york had given us

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permission and then they canceled it so

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we have to wait for that again but i've

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been busy

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yeah you like working in the film

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industry yes

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so i have some notes here i want to ask

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you about what's going on at the dod

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and the navy and the i mean it's just

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been like a

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freaking whirlwind of information that

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has come out

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and i just wanted to get your take on

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you know what you think is going on in

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the ufo community and what you think we

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well i think there's going to be

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disclosure coming

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soon i think sooner than later i think

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uh there's a lot of people working

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behind the scenes

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that we don't know about well maybe you

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don't know about i know a little bit

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about it

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us colleagues former colleagues i mean

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colleagues but former intelligence

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they're working behind the scenes to get

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some disclosure out in fact

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there's a movie or there's a film it's a

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17-minute film

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that was taken in 1996

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off the aircraft carrier in the pacific

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and this film is an actual naval film

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that shows

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a ufo flying near

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an aircraft carrier and uh the the

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film is i guess is longer than the 17

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uh some people got 17 received 17

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it's an extraordinary film i saw i saw

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i only saw about six minutes of it but

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it shows the

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six minutes though that's a nice yeah it

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shows an actual

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uh ufo flying around this

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i think it was south of hawaii

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and they scramble aircrafts to chase

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but the ironic part about it is the ufo

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was so close to the aircraft carrier

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the planes couldn't take off

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aircraft carrier so they couldn't take

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because this ufo was just above the

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so they had to get planes out of i

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believe it was maybe it was guam but i i

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believe it was either hawaii or one

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from from another and from a base to to

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to intercept this ufo and this was all

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like i said i only saw six minutes of it

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supposedly 17 minutes

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but i think the real film was the entire

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probably 45 or something but they're

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trying to get this

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uh out and there's a uh

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there's two people pushing it they're

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officer one well once a nate former

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is former dia but they're trying to get

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this out and they're trying to figure

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out the best way to get it out

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is this going to be like a smoking gun

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do you think i think it's going to be a

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because there's no way number one you

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a fabricated or planted or a movie scene

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because it was an actual aircraft

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carrier there's two camera angles

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that i saw i mean maybe there were more

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film but there's two camera angles

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it's extraordinary craft you could see

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it's it came in so close to the the

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that you can see little portals you can

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beings or whatever looking out the

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oh my god this is going to be

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extraordinary but and i i'm not involved

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in trying to get it out

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or anything like that some of some other

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i did see it i saw it out in las vegas

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uh there was a couple other people there

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they're trying to get

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figure out the best way to get this out

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whether it's through

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uh producer or director or whether

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they're going to try to do this on their

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i don't know i don't know that wow

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so wow it's close

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that is like what we need right now

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those dodo videos are great and i think

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and we've had a lot of guests we've

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talked to you about this and i

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you know i um we were able to kind of

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get your take off

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screen a lot for the special which by

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the way thank you for being a part of

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the storming area 51 special on travel

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channel we'll get into that

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but um we've got skeptics out there

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trying to debunk these videos as just

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anomalies or lens flares or something do

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um i wanna i mean is that how is that

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even possible is what i ask is how would

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release this information or allow this

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information to be released

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without having fully gone through every

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means possible to

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make sure there it isn't some sort of

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aberration in the film

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what do you think is that possible that

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all these people could be

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mistaken something and that the film is

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an anomaly is is that possible

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testing the uh the navy testing that

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that the navy didn't uh not everyone on

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knew this was going to happen but what

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the ironic part about it and this is why

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i'm saying this ironic part about it

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when those aircraft took off to

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fighter planes were not armed

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the f-18s were not armed somebody gave

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or or an order not to arm those planes a

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certain person on the ship

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the fleet uh commander which would have

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not to have any armed aircraft

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rockets or missiles this time they

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the pilots that took off and i spoken

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that day they couldn't they can't

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gets back to the to the idea that

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this they were being tested the ship was

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that these these objects came in they

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scrambled some planes unarmed so

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so they couldn't shoot them down and

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now why did the navy did this or why

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some other agency did this

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i don't know but let me go back about

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40 years okay or 30 38 years

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uh when i was uh and i tell them

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to plug in my phone here sorry go ahead

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when i was an intelligence officer

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kirtland air force base

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in in the early 80s they were testing

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drones it was a highly classified

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program because no one i don't think any

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um country was testing drones like we

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were and they were combat drones

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and one of the things they did one of

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the ways they tested them

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was that the plane would take off and

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once the plane was in the air they would

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launch these drones from the air

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from the plane and somebody inside the

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plane would be controlling these

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these uh these drones

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now paul benowitz had filmed some of

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and so and and we had to convince paul

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that what he was saying was ufos but

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but some of these things if you look

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at some of us that had access to it look

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back at what they were flying

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there in the 1980s and then what was

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on the tic tac film they're just look

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like the exact same objects

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so was there some kind of test being

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conducted

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or was this in fact different

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from what we saw in the 1980s

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2004 incident could very well be

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something that the government was

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testing that's highly advanced

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or it could be something

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extraterrestrial

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but that's something i had to throw out

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there because there's a lot of other

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people

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uh in in the loop so to speak former

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navy intelligence

291
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former pilots are saying you know what

292
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there's something wrong with

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the lead-up to this there's some some

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reason why

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uh the aircrafts weren't armed

296
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and and so i just wanted to throw that

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out there

298
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i think that's interesting i think that

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could very well be

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what's going on and i think with not

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having

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it would obviously to be make sure there

303
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wasn't any sort of

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actual conflict right

305
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so you have to ask yourself if indeed

306
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that's what's going on

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why would people just

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be pressured into thinking that they're

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seeing anomalies

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and that they're mistakes and i'm just

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kind of circling back to that point

312
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because you said it could be possible

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that i mean i agree it's possible people

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could

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if there's people out there that have

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reported or come forward to something

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that maybe was just some sort of

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you know disillusion but i just want to

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keep exploring that idea

320
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that the military is always

321
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why would they put forth these videos

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and information

323
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without having checked now but you're

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saying

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that there might be a deeper sort of

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military installation that

327
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is creating crafts and sort of seeing

328
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how they respond

329
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to carriers is that basically

330
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kind of sort of what you're getting at

331
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here yes this could be

332
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a highly secret program being run out of

333
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probably

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area 51 or or tonopah

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or creature force that are

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so classified that other branches of the

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military

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aren't aware of them so the government

339
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some entity within the government

340
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decides to test the military in 2004

341
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they the nimitz and their and their uh

342
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their their ships were out there

343
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conducting an exercise

344
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so what better uh time

345
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would it be for this other secretive

346
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agency to test that

347
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that aircraft carrier and the other

348
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ships

349
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by flying these strange drones or

350
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whatever they were

351
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uh adam to see how they would react

352
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would that be like an exercise

353
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in a way to prepare for if we have to

354
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use this sort of technology on a foreign

355
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enemy

356
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just to kind of get an idea of how they

357
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respond before revealing the technology

358
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to them

359
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exactly exactly or even

360
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even more secretive

361
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uh how would we react to an actual uh et

362
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craft

363
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how would the navy react to an actual et

364
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craft

365
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so they fly these things and these these

366
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uh

367
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tic tac these 85 or 55 gallon barrel

368
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looking things

369
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and they they displace so

370
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such strange chara flight

371
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characteristics that

372
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they want to test the pilots those a

373
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teams

374
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pilot f-18 pilots to see how would they

375
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would react

376
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to any craft maybe maybe that's i'm just

377
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saying

378
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i'm just throwing that out there i don't

379
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know for you know i don't know right

380
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yeah you do

381
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[Laughter]

382
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this is great conversation um i want to

383
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get into skinny bob for a minute

384
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um actually

385
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skinny bob aside let's just get into

386
00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:52,079
great aliens let's get into some of the

387
00:14:54,389 --> 00:14:53,360
stuff that you've seen that you know

388
00:14:58,790 --> 00:14:54,399
about

389
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at area 51 he may have went past this in

390
00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:00,639
a trailer i'm not sure

391
00:15:07,509 --> 00:15:04,079
but tell us a bit more about

392
00:15:08,629 --> 00:15:07,519
these beings um you know

393
00:15:09,990 --> 00:15:08,639
for everybody listening obviously we're

394
00:15:11,269 --> 00:15:10,000
talking about the gray aliens you know

395
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the three four foot

396
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guys with the big eyes um and we keep

397
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exploring that because that's what the

398
00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:16,959
internet wants to know about

399
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tell us a bit more about that and maybe

400
00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:20,079
some other technology that maybe you

401
00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:22,560
haven't shared before

402
00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:25,680
well the the alien that we

403
00:15:31,350 --> 00:15:28,800
captured or we recovered in the roswell

404
00:15:33,749 --> 00:15:31,360
crash of 1947

405
00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:33,759
uh somehow i don't know who named it but

406
00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:35,120
it was called ebit

407
00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:38,240
extra uh terrestrial biological entity

408
00:15:41,350 --> 00:15:40,720
i had somebody back then named it that

409
00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:41,360
okay

410
00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:43,440
so we they named it evil one so

411
00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:45,839
obviously there was more than one events

412
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evil one stayed uh lived in

413
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los alamos and uh provided a lot of

414
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information about

415
00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:57,839
space travel about his planet

416
00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:01,199
and about alien technology he provided

417
00:16:04,069 --> 00:16:03,600
us with an energy device he provided us

418
00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:04,079
with

419
00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:07,360
a communications device but you got to

420
00:16:13,269 --> 00:16:09,680
understand that in 1947

421
00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:13,279
between 47 and 52 because eva died in

422
00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:14,720
1952

423
00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:18,320
uh our technology was just at the very

424
00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:22,880
very very lowest level barely invented

425
00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:23,920
the transistor

426
00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:27,360
i think exactly exactly exactly oh i was

427
00:16:29,749 --> 00:16:29,040
on a drawing board but i don't know that

428
00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:29,759
we actually

429
00:16:33,829 --> 00:16:33,279
uh uh invented actually manufactured it

430
00:16:38,069 --> 00:16:33,839
but

431
00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:38,079
just real quick if you look at the

432
00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:39,839
original transistor if you google it it

433
00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:41,279
freaking looks like some

434
00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:44,560
somebody it to me it looks like somebody

435
00:16:48,069 --> 00:16:46,000
saw something

436
00:16:49,030 --> 00:16:48,079
and then tried to reverse it that's what

437
00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:49,040
it looks like

438
00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:51,600
it doesn't look like it just it just

439
00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:53,279
looks alien we'll have to show a picture

440
00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:54,560
on here i think it's weird anyway

441
00:16:58,870 --> 00:16:55,199
continue

442
00:17:02,310 --> 00:16:58,880
sorry well and so uh

443
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:02,320
they were so far advanced uh

444
00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:04,400
some estimates were 50 000 years more

445
00:17:07,829 --> 00:17:06,160
advanced than we were

446
00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:07,839
so how does somebody that is that

447
00:17:13,029 --> 00:17:09,839
intelligent explain

448
00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:13,039
something to us uh that we

449
00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:15,760
we couldn't possibly understand how and

450
00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:16,160
how

451
00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:19,280
his their uh communications device

452
00:17:26,230 --> 00:17:23,039
or how their um how their uh

453
00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:26,240
uh uh energy device worked

454
00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:29,039
how how do and and that's that that was

455
00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:30,880
the dilemma that the scientists back

456
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:32,559
then was experiencing

457
00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:35,520
this guy knew knows all this stuff and

458
00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:37,760
and we were able to

459
00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:40,080
teach it english but we can't understand

460
00:17:44,070 --> 00:17:42,160
what he's saying or how

461
00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:44,080
he we could manufacture some of these

462
00:17:48,010 --> 00:17:46,000
things right that was one of the

463
00:17:49,270 --> 00:17:48,020
dilemmas we had

464
00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:49,280
[Music]

465
00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:51,360
but he we just couldn't understand what

466
00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:52,880
he was trying to tell us as far as

467
00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:54,799
technology went

468
00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:57,039
and that's and when he died in 52 all we

469
00:18:01,990 --> 00:17:58,080
had was

470
00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:02,000
films of him talking to us uh

471
00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:04,320
the old 35 millimeter films or 16

472
00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:06,320
millimeter film whatever it was

473
00:18:09,669 --> 00:18:08,240
and what he and what we had recorded and

474
00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:09,679
what he had showed us

475
00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:12,559
so we had an energy device we had this

476
00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:14,080
energy device

477
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:16,559
we couldn't get it to work because we

478
00:18:20,549 --> 00:18:17,679
weren't at far

479
00:18:21,029 --> 00:18:20,559
advanced in technology as they were and

480
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:21,039
so we

481
00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:23,760
couldn't understand it so that's right

482
00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:24,720
you explained it

483
00:18:28,870 --> 00:18:27,600
as like a basically piece of plexiglas

484
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:28,880
looking to us it just looked like a

485
00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:30,160
piece of plexiglas

486
00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:33,919
with i assume no sort of technological

487
00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:37,200
looking anything well yeah it was a

488
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:40,240
large rectangle device thick thick and

489
00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:41,200
had some

490
00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:44,320
uh anomalies on each corner

491
00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:47,919
uh we were able to test it test the

492
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:51,280
amount of current uh amount of voltage

493
00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:53,840
that it would give out it would light up

494
00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:54,320
a little

495
00:19:00,630 --> 00:18:57,440
light bulb and also would light up a

496
00:19:01,430 --> 00:19:00,640
uh uh car headlights i mean a lot of

497
00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:01,440
things

498
00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:04,640
that we tested it was able to do for us

499
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:06,640
but we couldn't understand the interior

500
00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:07,679
of it

501
00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:10,720
we we even uh when the electron

502
00:19:13,909 --> 00:19:11,679
microscope

503
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:13,919
came into existence i believe that was

504
00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:16,000
in in the early 70s early

505
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:18,799
late 60s early 70s we used that to look

506
00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:20,400
at it and all we saw was these little

507
00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:21,840
holes

508
00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:24,320
and something inside the hole would be

509
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:25,600
aggravated

510
00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:28,720
when they when we when it put a

511
00:19:32,789 --> 00:19:30,960
demand of electricity was placed on but

512
00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:32,799
we didn't know how it worked

513
00:19:38,789 --> 00:19:38,080
now speed ahead to the 80s and 90s we

514
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:38,799
think

515
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:42,000
it worked by zero point energy

516
00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:44,720
and that's something that dr uh hal put

517
00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:45,280
off

518
00:19:49,029 --> 00:19:48,080
has has been testing or tested back in

519
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:49,039
those days

520
00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:58,150
so the device essentially pulled from

521
00:20:01,430 --> 00:20:00,720
surrounding electromagnetic energy to

522
00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:01,440
power

523
00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:03,039
sounds like from anything from a small

524
00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:05,039
amount to a large amount no matter what

525
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:07,600
or whatever it needed it would give it

526
00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:08,240
right

527
00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:10,960
yes exactly whatever demand you put on

528
00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:11,440
it

529
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:18,880
up up to a a uh a power plant

530
00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:20,720
it would it would provide it but we just

531
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:24,080
didn't understand it how how it worked

532
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:26,480
and we actually probably still don't i

533
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:27,600
don't i don't think we

534
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:29,440
i don't think we do i don't think we

535
00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:31,280
understand it today

536
00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:34,960
and um that technology probably hasn't

537
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:35,760
been seeded

538
00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:39,120
i assume like the transistor potentially

539
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:40,960
was seeded

540
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:42,480
um you know according to the day after

541
00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:44,320
roswell just kind of going to roswell

542
00:20:47,669 --> 00:20:46,799
because i wanted to get your thoughts on

543
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:47,679
the

544
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:50,720
sort of technology that maybe you've

545
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:51,200
seen

546
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:53,520
or that's been recovered from craft um

547
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:55,360
and again this was mentioned

548
00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:59,039
um by uh

549
00:21:02,070 --> 00:21:01,360
in the in the day after roswell which

550
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:02,080
was essentially

551
00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:05,200
a device that transmitted thought

552
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:08,559
into the saucer to make it fly

553
00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:17,909
so now we're in 2020 elon musk unveils

554
00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:19,200
the neural link

555
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:20,799
which for those of you who are not

556
00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:22,080
familiar with that that are listening or

557
00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:23,120
watching

558
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,760
this is a device that uses tiny

559
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:27,520
microscopic threads we're talking

560
00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,240
thinner than

561
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:30,480
a human hair that are inserted in

562
00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:32,159
between the brain matter

563
00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:34,880
and used to transmit signal between a

564
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:37,360
wireless device and your freaking

565
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:39,440
brain or as elon musk says like

566
00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:40,400
literally

567
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:44,320
tele you know uh uh um

568
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:46,240
you know being it's like being psychic

569
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:48,000
or being able to telepathy talk

570
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:49,679
telepathically that's what i'm looking

571
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:51,840
for thank you uh talk to each other

572
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:54,720
uh is that do you think that's a seated

573
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:56,000
technology that

574
00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:57,679
i mean i mean how does somebody even

575
00:22:02,149 --> 00:21:59,919
come up with that

576
00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:02,159
well i heard i heard about this a long

577
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:03,280
time ago i heard

578
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:06,799
sandia national laboratories tested some

579
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:10,720
some devices that could read brain waves

580
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:13,840
and also the mit and a in a

581
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:16,559
classified broke program they were

582
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:18,960
looking into back in the 80s

583
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:21,600
uh they they determined that every human

584
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:22,799
being

585
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,520
has a frequency everybody everyone has

586
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:27,600
some sort of a frequency

587
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:30,640
if you can tap into that frequency

588
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,799
you can do a lot with that person you

589
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:34,720
can manipulate the person

590
00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:36,799
and the mer and then the person with a

591
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,320
lot of training

592
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:40,799
can use that uh do that use that

593
00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:42,159
frequency

594
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:45,600
and that's kind of the the the idea that

595
00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:46,640
i think

596
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:49,120
uh brain waves have i mean i'm not an

597
00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:50,400
expert on it i'm just

598
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:55,039
i'm just more or less looking back

599
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:56,960
and what i knew about the program back

600
00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:58,080
in the 80s

601
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,919
and they were doing a lot of things back

602
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:01,280
then with the 80s with

603
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:04,000
with soldiers on the battlefield even

604
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:05,520
back in the 80s they had these

605
00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:08,480
helmets with sensors in there and they

606
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:09,039
would

607
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:12,000
uh uh place this soldier in in some kind

608
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:12,480
of a

609
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:15,039
situation and then it would read his

610
00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:16,400
brain waves

611
00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:19,600
how he reacted how his eighties

612
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:21,360
yeah this was in the 80s they were doing

613
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:22,640
this wow

614
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:25,120
and i'm sure it developed developed past

615
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:26,720
that into the 90s in

616
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:29,200
2000 but even back in the 80s they were

617
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:29,840
doing that

618
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:31,600
and what they developed what they found

619
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:33,200
out about it i i mean i

620
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:36,080
wasn't i wasn't in the loop on that but

621
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:37,760
but they were testing this stuff back in

622
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:39,679
the 80s

623
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:41,200
i want to chime in on that because

624
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:42,720
recently there was a video i don't know

625
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:44,720
if it was declassified or what

626
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:47,520
but it was shared i think by the air

627
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,320
force

628
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:51,279
if i remember quickly and it showed this

629
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:52,400
helmet that's supposed to be new

630
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:53,600
technology

631
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:56,320
and it's a full helmet with goggles with

632
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,840
a heads-up display

633
00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:59,760
and i was and i'm like that's the stuff

634
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:01,279
they described in the 80s

635
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:03,039
this helmet is from the 80s this is not

636
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:05,919
new technology they're showing it 2020

637
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:07,440
because you could still tell that it's

638
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:09,760
dated like hot you know high-end data

639
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:10,880
technology

640
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:14,480
so that only further corroborates

641
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:17,600
this insanity uh that

642
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:20,799
we're i mean this huge technological

643
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:23,120
leap in evolution and we're so far

644
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:24,720
beyond

645
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:28,159
i think the you know what the consumer

646
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:29,360
has access to

647
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:31,120
and even what some of the highest levels

648
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,279
of government and world governments

649
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:35,760
has access to the technology i assume

650
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:37,600
that we have

651
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:40,640
really kept secret is probably would you

652
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:40,960
say

653
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:44,799
hundreds thousands of years advanced

654
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:47,919
oh yes yeah i'm just talking about the

655
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:48,480
only thing

656
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:51,600
i know actually actually know about is

657
00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:52,799
evas

658
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:55,679
but there's as i understand there's

659
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:56,240
there's been

660
00:25:02,950 --> 00:24:59,600
many many other captured alien crafts

661
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:02,960
uh over the years evts

662
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:05,679
uh have been housed at area 51 i'm sure

663
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:06,480
they've

664
00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:08,559
the u.s government has learned a lot

665
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:09,679
more

666
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,480
about the et's and the and the ones that

667
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:14,080
are visiting earth

668
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,720
that i know about so i think there's a

669
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:18,400
lot of technology

670
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:21,440
that we've gathered over the years and

671
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,720
we have

672
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,640
uh experimenting with or trying to

673
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:26,640
reverse engineer

674
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:28,960
that are that is uh tucked away

675
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:31,520
somewhere out there in area 51.

676
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:35,120
wow this is probably technology we would

677
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:35,679
employ

678
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:39,440
under most dire circumstances i assume

679
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:49,350
alexander i know i'm sure you know who

680
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:51,200
john alexander is

681
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:54,000
yeah yeah john alexander talks about

682
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:55,600
some advanced

683
00:26:02,070 --> 00:25:59,760
technologies that we were developing

684
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:02,080
and we have but he doesn't talk about

685
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:03,360
anything other than that

686
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,799
he leaves it there because it's still

687
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:07,200
classified another another

688
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:10,880
uh colonel army colonel

689
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:13,679
spoke privately at one of the uso ufo

690
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:15,760
conventions a couple years ago

691
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,799
he brought up and he had a display of

692
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,559
all the different technologies that we

693
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,320
were experimenting with

694
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:24,720
and some of these things are absolutely

695
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:25,679
astonishing

696
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:28,880
like invisibility how how how they can

697
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,640
make soldiers invisible

698
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:32,320
how that how they they can make an

699
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:33,760
airplane in a

700
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:37,120
in a aircraft carrier or a combat ship

701
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:40,640
invisible against you know

702
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,039
during the battle on the battlefield so

703
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,880
there's a lot of things that we have i'm

704
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:46,320
sure we have

705
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:49,120
that and stuff i'm sure we've used in

706
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:50,559
iraq

707
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:52,159
the invisibility stuff you're talking

708
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,880
about um

709
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,159
and again i'm gonna put the video up if

710
00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:58,480
i can find it um there is a

711
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:02,080
sort of it looks clear it looks like a

712
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:02,960
clear shield

713
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:06,559
essentially and the guys stand behind

714
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:08,159
behind it and they completely disappear

715
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:09,600
and the wall blends in

716
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:11,840
and so they literally disappear and

717
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:12,880
apparently

718
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:15,360
somehow they use meta materials to reduc

719
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:16,880
like redirect the light

720
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:21,679
so what everything you're saying is

721
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:23,919
coming to fruition or has been otherwise

722
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:24,960
proven

723
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:28,480
and i'm saying this for the people that

724
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,320
maybe challenge rick dodi because this

725
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:32,559
guy knows what he's talking about

726
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:34,880
and with the eva is that i guess plural

727
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:35,919
for eb's or

728
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,279
i don't know um how many different races

729
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:41,440
because we've talked about this before

730
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:45,039
um would you estimate that we have

731
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:48,480
maybe you know

732
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:52,240
collected or what not from crash sites

733
00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:54,960
i only know of four now that's

734
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:56,159
describing

735
00:28:02,710 --> 00:27:59,520
my knowledge for yeah and they're named

736
00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:02,720
the first one is a quantiloid this thing

737
00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:03,919
is a kind of a

738
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:06,320
hideous looking creature like a praying

739
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:07,120
mantis

740
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,240
but it was highly intelligent uh the

741
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:12,640
second one is a

742
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:16,080
trantaloid it it's very

743
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:19,440
tall it's taller than a quantuloid uh

744
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:22,559
it has uh the ability to

745
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:26,080
read a person's mind uh the third one is

746
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:26,640
an even

747
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:28,240
that the one that we're talking about

748
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,559
captured and the fourth one

749
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:33,120
uh i don't the only know a little about

750
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:34,399
it the talls

751
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:41,110
only until brought that up tall whites

752
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:44,880
there's always

753
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:48,320
now i heard uh

754
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:51,600
some a person talk about some other

755
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,880
alien races

756
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:54,640
that we have i don't know personally

757
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:56,880
about those i know linda howell

758
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,440
can speak of i think nine or ten others

759
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:01,520
and some other people are talking about

760
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:04,000
50 or 100 but i'm just telling you what

761
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,360
i know

762
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:07,679
uh and that they were four when i left

763
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:10,000
in 1988 i know there were four

764
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,039
races of aliens we had in captivity or

765
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:14,880
we've had contact with

766
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:17,039
and what about this reptilian business

767
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:19,039
the reptilians live below

768
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:20,399
you know the earth and they capture the

769
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,919
kids and they eat them is that nonsense

770
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:23,440
or is that something that

771
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:25,520
yes that's it's that's the transloids

772
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:26,799
the transloids look

773
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:29,520
reptilian they look reptilian looking

774
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:30,799
like scaly

775
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:34,480
kind of yeah yes but i i don't know

776
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:37,600
uh i heard rumors about that

777
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:41,279
um i can't i can't say that that uh

778
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:44,320
any of those rumors are true

779
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,720
i want to let you know if you hear

780
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:47,919
sounds in the background because i have

781
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:48,559
a parrot

782
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:51,760
and she okay she likes it when i talk

783
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:52,320
[\h__\h]

784
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,360
um i was doing joe and i've been doing a

785
00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:57,120
lot of research trying to get down to

786
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,960
the you know the great aliens and kind

787
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,720
of that's why i think the skinny bob

788
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:02,080
video and we've talked about this to

789
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:03,039
every guest

790
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:06,320
um in this series about how life like

791
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:10,080
and real they are i uh i listened to an

792
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:11,760
eyewitness account from

793
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:15,120
i think it was like 40 years ago

794
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,159
and he described them as

795
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:21,279
beautiful or good-looking people

796
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:24,080
sort of oriental looking and ps that's

797
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:25,600
his words not mine because

798
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:28,559
oriental things are oriental not people

799
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:30,080
as my mother

800
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,600
is reminded on a regular basis so he

801
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:35,600
said that they looked more human than

802
00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:38,480
not is is i mean

803
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:42,480
does that sound or did are the grays so

804
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:45,440
different that they're unrecognized you

805
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,320
get what i'm saying

806
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:48,399
what are they really are they more human

807
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:50,240
looking or are they more alien looking i

808
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:51,840
know that's kind of a weird way to put

809
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:52,559
it but

810
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:56,240
do they have sort of you know do they do

811
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:58,720
tell me about that the nordics are the

812
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:00,320
are the human looking ones

813
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:03,039
they're the only ones that i know of

814
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:03,440
that

815
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:05,279
are human looking and they can take on

816
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:06,799
appearances

817
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:09,840
of different style here i mean as i was

818
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:12,000
told different

819
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:14,960
facial features of a human of a nordic

820
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:15,440
or

821
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:22,159
just a a homo sapien

822
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,840
plain a white white homo sapien

823
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:28,240
they can take on those appearances now

824
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,360
the one i saw the picture i saw

825
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:33,840
what the one they they'd captured in

826
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:36,399
washington dc some years ago

827
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:40,000
it looked like a swede swedish

828
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:43,120
had long blonde hair it was male had

829
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:44,880
long blonde hair shoulder length blond

830
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:46,000
hair

831
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:48,880
eyes were very strange looking almost

832
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:49,919
cat-like i mean

833
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:52,960
the outer lids were normal the the inner

834
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:55,279
eyeballs were almost cat-like

835
00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:58,559
had a nose and mouth teeth

836
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:01,840
normal appearance except for the eyes of

837
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:04,960
a human being but but that's the only

838
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:05,440
one that

839
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:08,240
i know that that would have taken

840
00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:09,360
appearance of a human

841
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:11,600
all the other ones well they say he was

842
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:13,679
saying

843
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:17,039
looked like a human but it was

844
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,279
the gray but the facial just just the

845
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:21,200
way that i guess the face was structured

846
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:23,039
that they had big eyes

847
00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:24,240
and the little no even though it had a

848
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:26,159
little nose and a little mouth that it

849
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:26,799
still

850
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:30,000
had a you know sort of a humanistic sort

851
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:31,440
of feel to it is the way he described

852
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:32,399
the aliens

853
00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:34,480
the grey aliens so i was just wondering

854
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:35,840
so it sounds to me like

855
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,120
there's two different sorts of things

856
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,600
going on here there's the nordics which

857
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:41,039
by the way i don't really

858
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:45,279
know how i feel about the nordics yet um

859
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:48,559
there's a very very interesting story uh

860
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:49,760
we'll have to get into another time

861
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:53,039
about a alien cult called the raelians

862
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:57,760
and they really uh play up that whole uh

863
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:01,039
um that the uh the nordics

864
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:05,760
um tell us something

865
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:08,960
that you've never told anybody

866
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:11,260
it's not gonna go anywhere i swear

867
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:13,360
[Laughter]

868
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:17,600
you know why everybody asks us that

869
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:20,000
and we just say it's only the i we just

870
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:21,760
say that the biggest thing he told us

871
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:23,600
was the things was that he couldn't tell

872
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:25,039
us things because it would frighten us

873
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:25,360
but

874
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:26,559
we would like to be frightened a little

875
00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:28,960
bit if you don't mind well uh the only

876
00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:30,159
thing i have never

877
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:32,559
discussed and i i really like you guys i

878
00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:34,080
really appreciate you guys getting me on

879
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:34,880
your

880
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:38,080
that uh storming 50

881
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:41,039
thank you for doing research on youtube

882
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,760
and uh

883
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:43,760
you're all you really you're real people

884
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:44,960
i mean you're not fake

885
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:46,640
at all and i really appreciate that i

886
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:48,640
really i like to associate myself with

887
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,600
people like you

888
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:51,360
and not the fake people awesome you know

889
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:52,799
what the you know who the fake people

890
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:53,600
are you know yeah

891
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:56,880
yes we do thank you we appreciate that

892
00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:59,440
yeah we come at this from a totally like

893
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:00,559
we want to know level

894
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:03,760
and so okay there was no one

895
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:05,760
okay there was an incident never told

896
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:07,679
never disclosed this to anyone

897
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:11,119
uh well i i have but not in public

898
00:34:15,909 --> 00:34:14,480
in a private setting um

899
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:15,919
some years when i was working

900
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:18,480
intelligence officer we had a woman come

901
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:21,440
forth and told us that she was being

902
00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:22,159
abducted

903
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:25,440
she was very uh very believable

904
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:28,480
she had marks on her bodies not just

905
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:31,200
little marks but marks all over her body

906
00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:32,800
wow we had a

907
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:35,839
physician examine her a gynecologist

908
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:39,119
examined her she'd had

909
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:42,560
us sorry she's a gynecologist

910
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:45,520
a gynecologist told us that she'd had

911
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:46,399
probes

912
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:50,079
in her in her vagina wait

913
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:52,960
this joe just real quick if you don't

914
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:54,480
mind because we're talking about vaginas

915
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:57,280
can you show rick dodi your vagina neck

916
00:35:05,510 --> 00:34:58,240
no

917
00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:08,069
that's good sorry you're gonna edit that

918
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:09,040
out

919
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:12,480
of course okay

920
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:15,200
anyways uh sh so she was believable we

921
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,000
did a lot of other

922
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:18,079
tests on it we gave her a polygraph

923
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,680
examination

924
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:21,680
and she told she lived in a in a

925
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:24,320
somewhat remote area of new mexico

926
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:27,040
uh probably 15 miles away from the base

927
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:28,400
up in the mountains

928
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:31,200
and she told us that these creatures

929
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:32,480
would come

930
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:33,920
and she knew exactly when they were

931
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:36,720
going to come between two

932
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:39,680
and three o'clock every single morning

933
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,960
and not every morning but

934
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:42,400
two and three o'clock in the morning

935
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:43,760
that's when they would come and visit

936
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:44,720
her

937
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:47,680
so we decided to go and set up somewhat

938
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:49,040
of a surveillance

939
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,520
we set up cameras in our house uh we

940
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:53,200
weren't in the house we were outside we

941
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:54,560
were some distance away but we were

942
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:55,520
monitoring

943
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:57,920
the camera we set up a microwave link on

944
00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:59,119
her roof

945
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:01,119
so we could receive we i think we had

946
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:02,160
three cameras

947
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:04,960
and no we actually had four cameras that

948
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:05,520
stay

949
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:08,240
stationed around her uh her bedroom and

950
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:09,119
her living room

951
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:12,079
she lived by herself uh about three

952
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:13,520
o'clock in the morning

953
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:17,280
these strange appearances these strange

954
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:19,520
uh shadows started appearing in her

955
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:20,640
house

956
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:23,920
now this lady didn't have any

957
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,560
uh any electronical equipment in her

958
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:28,079
house other than a television and a

959
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:29,680
radio and a phone

960
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:32,880
and we're talking 1984 time period well

961
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:33,280
okay

962
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:36,000
she wasn't if she was an electronics

963
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:38,960
wizard or anything like that

964
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,560
these strange shadows would appear

965
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:44,720
and she's sitting on the couch i mean

966
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:45,599
she's uh

967
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:48,400
laying on the couch and i appeared that

968
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:49,839
she was sleeping although you know we

969
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,960
weren't there so

970
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,320
it appeared that she was sleeping but

971
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:54,960
these shadows would come in

972
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:56,880
and the shadows would come in and we're

973
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,160
watching this on

974
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:01,200
real life i mean real time tv and our

975
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,640
video link

976
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,320
and then as soon as they got close to

977
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:06,000
her they would appear

978
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:10,000
they would turn into these these

979
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:12,640
uh reptilian creatures they weren't very

980
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:13,520
tall though

981
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,839
they weren't that six foot that i would

982
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:17,440
told they were probably four or

983
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:20,000
five four foot five or five inches but

984
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:22,320
they were really hideous looking

985
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:24,320
and they would stand over her and do

986
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,800
this for 15 or 20 minutes

987
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:28,320
and then they would break into the

988
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,000
shadowy shadow

989
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:33,119
dark shadow and then disappear 15 20

990
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:34,400
minutes of horror

991
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:38,000
wow yeah well then we would we we waited

992
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,880
until

993
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:40,880
a couple hours we thought well were they

994
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,240
going to come back or

995
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:44,720
well probably 5 30 or 6 o'clock in the

996
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:47,440
morning we went to her house

997
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:51,200
she let us in we examined the house we

998
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:52,640
had experts there to

999
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:55,920
do electronic sweeps of the entire house

1000
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:57,760
because we were as confused as she was

1001
00:38:02,710 --> 00:37:59,680
like wow we just witnessed a

1002
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:02,720
real abduction a real live abduction

1003
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:05,200
although she didn't move holy hell he

1004
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:06,960
didn't move

1005
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:10,320
but was she aware well she was aware of

1006
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,560
it

1007
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:12,320
she was sleeping she said but she was

1008
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:13,839
aware of it

1009
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:17,200
but she said that that whole incident

1010
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,720
lasted for several hours we were looking

1011
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:22,800
at the video

1012
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:26,160
and it only lasted 15 or 16 minutes

1013
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:29,200
what we were appearing i don't i could

1014
00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:30,800
never understand it and

1015
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:33,359
our advisors our scientific advisors

1016
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:33,839
jerry

1017
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:35,920
miller and some other people couldn't

1018
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:38,400
understand how this could have happened

1019
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:42,480
so we got permission we asked

1020
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:45,440
our supervisors if we could go if we

1021
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,000
could stay

1022
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:48,640
in the house and they've initially said

1023
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:50,079
no no no no no we don't want to get

1024
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:51,040
involved in this

1025
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,640
we'll do it from a distance but

1026
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:54,560
eventually they allowed us so we went we

1027
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:55,920
were in the house

1028
00:39:01,829 --> 00:38:59,119
we were hiding in the house we had

1029
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,839
cameras set up we had a we had a link in

1030
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:03,839
our van some distance away

1031
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,359
uh like we did the first time and this

1032
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:07,119
was a several weeks later it was a

1033
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:10,640
week before thanksgiving of 1985.

1034
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:13,839
84. and we were in the house we were

1035
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:15,440
hidden in the house i was

1036
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:18,800
in a uh a little closet off the kitchen

1037
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:19,920
and there was another

1038
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,119
agent in in another room off of the uh

1039
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:25,760
living room and we had a little monitors

1040
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:26,560
that we were

1041
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:29,599
getting the feed that the other the band

1042
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:30,960
was getting

1043
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:32,640
so we weighed and what we wanted to do

1044
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:34,320
was try to try to

1045
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:37,359
come out and confront believe it or not

1046
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:38,960
this is what we wanted to do

1047
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,839
i wasn't scared i mean the other agent

1048
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:43,040
wasn't scared

1049
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:46,000
we thought are they real are they

1050
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,599
materialistic

1051
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:50,000
right or is this some kind of a

1052
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:53,119
psychological game that they're playing

1053
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:54,960
and we have weapons we had guns we

1054
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,320
always carry guns

1055
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:58,400
so when this thing when they appeared

1056
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,920
the shadows appeared

1057
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:02,240
and then the creatures appeared we

1058
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:03,599
waited

1059
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:06,160
but as we tried i i was in a locked door

1060
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:08,480
i mean it was in the closet a little

1061
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,640
storage room but there wasn't any lock

1062
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,240
in the door

1063
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:14,319
but when i tried to open the door to get

1064
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:15,839
out i couldn't

1065
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:18,400
i was trapped in that room as the other

1066
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:20,960
agent was trapped in the other room

1067
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:23,680
we kicked and kicked finally i broke the

1068
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,400
door

1069
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,960
but by the time i got out the creatures

1070
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:28,400
were gone

1071
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:30,000
i've never told that before i mean i've

1072
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:32,000
told it privately

1073
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:33,920
uh the other agent and i did a little

1074
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:35,599
presentation with some intelligence

1075
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:36,640
officers

1076
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:39,520
uh we we had we had a little film i

1077
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,160
thought we

1078
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:43,200
we couldn't keep it but i've never told

1079
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,319
anyone that

1080
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:46,560
and you know i'm a i'm pretty tough

1081
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:47,359
person i

1082
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:50,079
i don't scare very easy but when that

1083
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,680
door was locked i couldn't get out and i

1084
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:53,119
knew there wasn't a lock on the door it

1085
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,000
was just a regular

1086
00:41:00,309 --> 00:40:57,119
oh that's right that is terrifying so

1087
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:03,750
some that

1088
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:06,720
that's like my biggest nightmare wow

1089
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,839
aliens i'm not

1090
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:09,599
covering over me for fifty twenty

1091
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:11,200
minutes and then i wasn't claustrophobic

1092
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:11,520
but

1093
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:14,000
again i felt lost before we get the time

1094
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:14,880
oh i bet

1095
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:18,000
you got on the track you can't get out

1096
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:20,720
yeah wow thank you so much that's such a

1097
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:22,000
great story that's definitely one we

1098
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:22,640
have that's

1099
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,760
crazy did so

1100
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:27,839
i don't think people realize there's uh

1101
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,440
you know skeptics and stuff like michael

1102
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:31,200
shermer who's like well you know

1103
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:32,560
okay well people are really abducted by

1104
00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:33,680
aliens why don't they bring something

1105
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:35,119
back with them bring a piece of the ship

1106
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:36,720
bring something off the ship

1107
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:38,800
you can't bring [\h__\h] when you are

1108
00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:41,440
completely paralyzed

1109
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,599
and under control and they can hold the

1110
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:45,359
door closed on you i mean like

1111
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:48,560
yeah it's so far above and beyond

1112
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:52,240
any i mean it's like

1113
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:53,839
they just come and go in a blink don't

1114
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:55,280
they yes

1115
00:42:01,910 --> 00:41:59,040
yes going back to that

1116
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,920
what we found out what we later uh

1117
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,440
determined was

1118
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:05,280
they had set up some sort of and we

1119
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:06,960
couldn't really measure it but some sort

1120
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:08,720
of a force field

1121
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:10,960
around her and around them protecting

1122
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:12,640
them from any harm

1123
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:16,160
that we could have oh wow i

1124
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:19,200
they're way ahead of you guys then

1125
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,720
i really think that you knew we were

1126
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,319
there i really i

1127
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:24,720
really think they knew we were there

1128
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:26,000
they weren't going to harm us

1129
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,319
because they weren't after her but they

1130
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:30,960
they were they knew we were there

1131
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:34,079
because i never heard i never heard the

1132
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:36,000
door lock or anything i didn't hear any

1133
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,640
noises but when i saw the shadows and

1134
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,560
then they appear

1135
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:42,480
we had a little we had radios and maybe

1136
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:44,079
they heard the radios we had two way

1137
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:45,119
radios and i

1138
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:47,680
i told my other steve i said steve go go

1139
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:48,880
go let's go

1140
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:52,240
and we couldn't get out jeez

1141
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:55,520
no did she ever

1142
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:57,680
yeah that's one time in my life when i

1143
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:58,800
was really

1144
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:01,440
really not the only time but one time i

1145
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:02,720
was really scared because i got

1146
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:06,160
i thought where am i the first thing i

1147
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:07,200
thought was they

1148
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,400
they they did something to me oh

1149
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,319
am i really in this place room they they

1150
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:14,079
took me someplace else that's what i was

1151
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:15,280
thinking at the time because i couldn't

1152
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,560
get out this door

1153
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:18,160
and it was dark in the room except for

1154
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:19,599
the the light off the

1155
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,520
the little screen i was looking and

1156
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:22,800
they're they're

1157
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:24,960
1980 or screens they're not something

1158
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,200
like we would have today

1159
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:29,520
and and that's what really scared me and

1160
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:31,280
once steve the other guy the other agent

1161
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,160
was there

1162
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:34,160
this guy was i mean tough he was a he

1163
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:35,760
was a vietnam veteran he was

1164
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:38,880
uh special forces you know when i when

1165
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:39,200
we

1166
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:42,880
scared steve he said hell yeah i was

1167
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,520
scared

1168
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:46,079
wow what the hell how the hell do you do

1169
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:46,560
this

1170
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:49,839
door doesn't lock well

1171
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:54,400
you think it was force field wow so

1172
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:57,839
we're helplessly hopelessly kind of

1173
00:44:01,190 --> 00:44:00,560
unable to obtain i mean the fact that

1174
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:01,200
you were able to

1175
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:03,280
record it and of course i'm that's

1176
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:04,800
suppressed information

1177
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:16,470
is there anything else you want to cover

1178
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:19,680
joe because i'm in shock right now

1179
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:21,760
i'm talking to someone who was trying to

1180
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:23,359
interrupt an abduction and it wouldn't

1181
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,359
work

1182
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,119
that's why nobody's been able to do

1183
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:29,359
anything but they always say it's just

1184
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:32,800
oh sleep paralysis but i think

1185
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:34,880
there's more to it there is there is a

1186
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:36,000
legitimate phenomenon

1187
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:37,440
called sleep process that's happened to

1188
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,040
me it's [\h__\h] terrible

1189
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:41,200
it happened to everybody yeah you wake

1190
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:43,040
up consciously but not physically

1191
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:46,000
it's terrifying i think for adduct

1192
00:44:50,950 --> 00:44:47,760
abduction i sound like that

1193
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,960
i think for objection they probably also

1194
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:52,079
they might even use that

1195
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:53,760
mechanism that's already in us

1196
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,760
biologically just you know they just

1197
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:57,599
yeah

1198
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,800
probably you know what i mean they may

1199
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:00,800
not even need advanced technology

1200
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:02,960
to be able to take us or take us

1201
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:04,079
consciously

1202
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:06,319
but not being able to move somewhere you

1203
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:07,599
know like to their ship

1204
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:09,040
because people go well there's no how'd

1205
00:45:11,990 --> 00:45:10,880
that work well we don't need technology

1206
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:12,000
we already do it

1207
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:13,520
they just have to turn on that chemical

1208
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:15,359
or that whatever it is that

1209
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:23,990
well there was some uh i can't go any

1210
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:26,000
great details on it because it's it's

1211
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:27,680
probably so classified

1212
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:31,520
but uh the we've we've developed

1213
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:34,880
methods uh by tapping into a human's

1214
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:36,160
frequency

1215
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:38,240
to make that human do things that they

1216
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:39,760
would normally do

1217
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:42,160
i mean i saw an experiment some years

1218
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:42,960
ago

1219
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,000
where a they tapped into the this

1220
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:49,119
uh this person that was he was about he

1221
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:50,640
was a volunteer

1222
00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:54,720
and um tapping and manipulating his

1223
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:57,280
body frequency made him do things

1224
00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:58,319
standing up

1225
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:01,760
turning around and he was awake

1226
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:03,040
you could see this literally mind

1227
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:05,359
control or

1228
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:08,160
yeah mine and body control but when

1229
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,920
afterwards when they showed him the film

1230
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:11,760
or what he did he doesn't remember it

1231
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,960
he said i was just sitting there i

1232
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:14,880
didn't do those things

1233
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:18,000
so somehow we can do that stuff

1234
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:20,560
we could do that stuff 25 years ago

1235
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:23,119
imagine what we could do now today

1236
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:24,880
and did and then one of the other things

1237
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:27,359
i mean this is really interesting

1238
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:30,640
i was told by a sandia scientist

1239
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:34,000
um and this was back in the 80s

1240
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:36,000
i said you know we can do a lot of

1241
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,760
things with a human body

1242
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,599
right and he said yeah he's not a he's

1243
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,960
not a medical doctor he's just a

1244
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:42,400
scientist

1245
00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:46,960
he said we learned a lot from j-rod

1246
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,200
so this tapping into frequencies

1247
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,240
and manipulating the human body did we

1248
00:47:02,550 --> 00:46:57,119
develop these things or did the aliens

1249
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:09,109
that's something to think about whoa

1250
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:12,150
i'm thinking about it right now

1251
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,470
that's terrifying it is oh my gosh

1252
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:18,960
i just want to say something because um

1253
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:20,800
i listened to words very carefully and i

1254
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:21,599
listened to

1255
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:23,760
trump talk and he's used words like

1256
00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:25,839
invisible enemy

1257
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:29,359
uh ominous weapons and

1258
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:32,559
uh and of course he's referring to the

1259
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:33,920
virus when he talks about invisible

1260
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:35,760
enemy i just think isn't that an inch

1261
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,200
because i've seen the phenomena

1262
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:42,160
or these crap be referred to as

1263
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:43,119
invisible

1264
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:45,200
enemy do you think that that he do is

1265
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:48,160
that like a disclosure drip right there

1266
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:50,160
could very well be because i've heard

1267
00:48:02,549 --> 00:47:51,520
that

1268
00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:02,559
has

1269
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:05,920
publicized years ago this one woman who

1270
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:06,559
said

1271
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:11,200
that it's the yeah aliens are visible

1272
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:12,319
well and something like i think it's

1273
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:14,160
some of the some of the declassified

1274
00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:16,319
docs it's referred to that

1275
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:18,319
as well and he and ominous weapons now

1276
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:19,359
by the way

1277
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,640
he said that during the protests

1278
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:24,960
in front of the white house and come to

1279
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:25,920
find out

1280
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,040
those weapons that he was talking about

1281
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:29,280
there were ominous were essentially

1282
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:32,640
i believe microwave radiation sort of

1283
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:34,319
technology that they would come out

1284
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:36,880
and it makes your skin feel like it's on

1285
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:38,319
fire

1286
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:39,920
but they didn't deploy those weapons but

1287
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:43,040
that was an option so i feel like

1288
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,839
i mean and by the way uh just so

1289
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:47,200
everybody listening i don't

1290
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:49,440
i don't care what i'm just talking about

1291
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:50,720
what happened i

1292
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:54,319
i have unfortunately no emotions

1293
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,440
so i'm just talking about what happened

1294
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:59,040
i can vouch for that

1295
00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:00,640
it's not about trump or not about jump

1296
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:02,160
or whatever it's just about this is what

1297
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:03,040
happened because he's

1298
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,160
because of those things i think of

1299
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:06,559
ominous because i'm waiting for the ufo

1300
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:07,760
disclosure that's what the hell i'm

1301
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:09,200
waiting for like

1302
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:12,640
could it happen this year do you think

1303
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:14,960
is it possible is are things enough in

1304
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:17,359
place that maybe we might get an october

1305
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:18,480
surprise

1306
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:20,130
of by the way

1307
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:22,000
[Music]

1308
00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:24,079
very well right before the election i

1309
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:25,280
think uh

1310
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:27,680
i'm a political so you know i'm not i

1311
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:29,359
don't favor anybody but

1312
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,040
uh you know one way to to uh

1313
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:35,040
if trump in fact and i don't follow the

1314
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:36,800
polls but i hear that he's

1315
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:39,359
behind in the poll one way that he could

1316
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:41,040
probably boost up his

1317
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:44,640
popularity is by some disclosure

1318
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:47,839
oh yeah well he he could also deem

1319
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:50,880
uh this information or these these

1320
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:54,400
uh intruders as a threat and maybe even

1321
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:56,800
potentially

1322
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:58,960
you know uh motivate some sort of

1323
00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:01,280
engagement with them which would

1324
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:04,559
only happen before something like that

1325
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,160
i know grier has talked about it and i

1326
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:08,240
got to tell you guys dr greer is i don't

1327
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:09,119
know i feel he's

1328
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:12,400
he's oh god this is that's a whole

1329
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:13,359
episode

1330
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:16,000
um he's not entirely nuts and i've said

1331
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:17,599
this before he's just an [\h__\h] he's

1332
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:19,040
not nuts oh yes there we go

1333
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,800
um he years ago started pushing this

1334
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:24,880
alien invasion hoax thing and i was like

1335
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:26,880
this is stupid but then

1336
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:29,359
when they start referring to

1337
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:31,520
unidentified aerial threats

1338
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:34,240
and then now we're going to you know

1339
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:35,520
that could very well be

1340
00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:38,319
the next plot in the chart you know is

1341
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:40,800
that we're going to interplanetary war

1342
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:45,589
or and like i was asking nick pope it

1343
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:46,640
maybe do you think it could be a

1344
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:47,680
revelation of

1345
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:50,800
well we found a germ on venus or you

1346
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:51,280
know

1347
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:54,720
a microbe uh i don't think anybody would

1348
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,520
care

1349
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:56,880
i think everybody heard of the venus

1350
00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:02,750
the venus germ there's germs on venus

1351
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:05,119
[Laughter]

1352
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:07,680
terrific i know them i know they're the

1353
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:08,880
best germans if you know they probably

1354
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:11,119
could maybe not be

1355
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:13,680
pretty good pretty good ah joe's better

1356
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:15,200
at than i am now thank you can we

1357
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:17,280
cut just a minute i gotta let me take my

1358
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:18,480
dog out of room where he'll start

1359
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:19,440
barking

1360
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:22,720
sure no problem yeah we'll talk about

1361
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:24,079
you while you're gone

1362
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:27,359
yeah what do you think about that story

1363
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:30,319
i believe them that is what's gotten you

1364
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:31,920
what's got in the background there

1365
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:34,640
it's like a stack of books leave them

1366
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:35,440
alone

1367
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:38,160
is that tissue paper i think that's one

1368
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:38,559
two

1369
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,280
three boxes of tissue paper are you

1370
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,880
really sitting there talking about rick

1371
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:44,319
dodie's tissue paper

1372
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:46,640
oh and a binder but you notice this

1373
00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:54,069
look at you is that jesus i can't see

1374
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:55,040
what that picture is

1375
00:52:02,549 --> 00:51:58,720
no it's a praleon noid

1376
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:02,559
what what are they called quack quad the

1377
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:07,040
quadroids quadrinoids titanoids

1378
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:09,119
quadronoids or something and it's an

1379
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:18,390
you're an [\h__\h] you're an [\h__\h]

1380
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:19,839
i think he got that lint from walmart

1381
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,280
that looks like a walmart lamp leave him

1382
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:23,280
the [\h__\h] along with it

1383
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:25,760
that actually could be an amazon lamp

1384
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:27,760
actually are you recording this

1385
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:29,760
yes that's what makes it funny dumbass

1386
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:31,200
sorry about that

1387
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:35,040
no worries yes sir joe was just pointing

1388
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:37,920
out that your clock's in military time

1389
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:45,109
i always i always go by that i don't

1390
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:46,559
know why i just

1391
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:49,359
yay it's easy our dad's in the military

1392
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:50,720
and he does

1393
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:53,119
same thing stuff all the time except for

1394
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:54,319
i got to tell you about my dad

1395
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:55,920
who was on our who was on storming area

1396
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:58,079
51 by the way

1397
00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:59,440
yeah apparently that was the best part

1398
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,520
so there you go uh

1399
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:03,599
he always would set the clocks 10

1400
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:05,200
minutes ahead

1401
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:06,559
so we never really knew what [\h__\h]

1402
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:11,430
we're like oh we're late for school no

1403
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:12,800
we're not early

1404
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:16,000
damn it dad you strike again

1405
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:18,960
i'm telling you military people we have

1406
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:20,720
a lot of military uh

1407
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,880
people in our family so we come from a

1408
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:24,319
uh you know

1409
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:28,240
a big group of um vets so uh

1410
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,440
i think here's the thing joe

1411
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:33,760
is pregnant and he's going to find out

1412
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:34,480
if he's having

1413
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:37,680
a boy or a girl or neither today so

1414
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:39,200
we're going to find out we have to let

1415
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:40,319
him go because he's got to go get

1416
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:41,200
another yeah

1417
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:42,960
sorry rick i gotta go we're gonna do an

1418
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:44,240
ultrasound to find out

1419
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:46,000
are you gonna put the jelly on your are

1420
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,800
you gonna put the jelly on your tummy

1421
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:51,119
okay hey hey rick it was great talking

1422
00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:52,240
to you

1423
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:56,319
know

1424
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:59,119
thank you emmett shut up can i talk to

1425
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:00,559
rick please

1426
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,520
jeez you don't shut up your lips just

1427
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:05,440
pressure rick